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Bill Proposes English as Official Language in County

Councilman Jerry Walker presented the bill, which is already being backed by a majority of the Anne Arundel County Council.

 

A councilman wants to make English the official language of Anne Arundel County, saying voters asked him for this.

While campaigning for his council seat, Councilman Jerry Walker (R-7th District) said illegal immigration was a hot topic among his constituents. The bill he presented to the council on Monday was in part the realization of a campaign promise, he said.

“There was overwhelmingly positive response [to that], so I turned it into a campaign commitment,” Walker said.

Bill 13-12 would make English the official language of Anne Arundel County for all official documents, communications and agreements on behalf of the county.

Walker said he has another resolution planned to address illegal immigration by penalizing business owners who hire illegal workers.

“It would permit the county to remove a business owner’s license if that business owner is found to have knowingly hired illegal immigrants,” Walker said.

Walker’s bill is backed by three other Republican members of the County Council, but Councilmen Jamie Benoit (D-4thDistrict) and Chris Trumbauer (D-6th District) both said on Monday that they oppose the bill.

“I’m not a fan of it,” Trumbauer said. “I don’t see the need for it.”

Trumbauer added that even if the bill passed, it wouldn’t stop him from helping his constituents who don’t speak English as their primary language. He said he thought it was counterproductive to not engage with that community.

Benoit called the bill a “symbolic vote,” and said he expected some lively discussion when the public hearing for the bill occurs on March 5.

Walker’s sponsors are Dick Ladd (R-5thDistrict), John Grasso (R-2nd District) and Derek Fink (R-3rd District).

Grasso was vocal about his support of the bill, saying that if immigrants wanted to participate in the county, they needed to learn English.

“Guess what? You came to America, and the official language is English, and you will blend with everybody else. We’re not going to change our world to suit you. You will learn to suit to the country,” Grasso said.

The council traditionally has seven members, but it is still missing one representative after former Councilman Daryl Jones’ 1st District seat was vacated by a new resolution passed in January, a few days before he was set to begin serving his sentence in federal prison for tax evasion.

However, Benoit said he was confident that by the time this bill will be voted on, they will have someone in the 1st District's seat.

The bill is set to go to public hearing at the council's March 5 meeting, where it will also face its first vote.

Related Topics: Anne Arundel County Council, Chris Trumbauer, Jamie Benoit, John Grasso, illegal immigration, and jerry walker

Ryan Moore

9:33 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Wow. Typical politics of fear. Amazing that the council would waste their time on something as purposely divisive as this just to cater to a paranoid, xenophobic minority in the county. This should not be forced upon people. If someone decides to come here and doesn't learn the language, they will pay for it in the end with lack of opportunities, etc. Different dialects and languages can and will enhance our culture. In Mexico, in addition to Spanish, people speak Maya, Nahuatl, Tarahumara, Zapotec and Otomi to name a few. In the British Isles, people speak Welsh, Gaelic, and regional dialects such as Scottish and Cockney. Instead of fearing culture, try to open your mind and embrace it. What an interesting educational opportunity to go to South Florida and hear english spoken with a hispanic accent and spanish words thrown in the mix. Our country is based upon multiculturism and was founded by immigrants. As a caucasian who is 50% Irish, I welcome multiculturism in our county. Mr. Walker, Ladd, Grasso, and Fink are being shortsighted, fearful, little men by introducing such a divisive and useless bill.

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Nick Z.

12:53 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

A well formed response to a poorly formed bill.

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spring

10:03 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

"Mr. Walker, Ladd, Grasso, and Fink are being shortsighted, fearful, little men by introducing such a divisive and useless bill."

I totally agree.

INTRODUCING LEGAL COSTS FOR MANY YEARS:
Don't forget this is not only a wasteful use of tax-payers money in the short term, but I am sure it will be challenged eventually and have a legacy of continuing legal costs down the road.

So I repeat...shortsighted grandstanding by petty little men.

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Ronald Grossman

7:59 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Couldn't disagree more. All we are doing is watering down and bastardizing the English Language. When I come into your home I show respect by doing things your way. I am tired of learning other'c cultural issues when in my home. As a descendant of immigrants I know how hard my parents and grandparents worked to learn English. Why are we constantly kissing up to those that want it their way. God Bless America and the English Language. We are not a minority - just a silent majority starting to speak out against those that think it alright to give away our culture.

Sign me a Viet Nam Veteran that expects respect in the country he fought for.

Patrick Mondor

10:26 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The bill specifically states, "Bill 13-12 would make English the official language of Anne Arundel County for all official documents, communications and agreements on behalf of the county". It appears to be focused on official business documents in this county. Doesn't state people can't come to the county and speak their language. I don't see what is so divisive about this.

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Annapolis born

1:27 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Good come back to the typcial response from the DEM's of the state. They jump on any card to get the answer thay want. We pay for it in the end if they dont learn the tounge, think about it.

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McGibblets

3:14 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

thank you patrick, clearly others are missing this point. its for uniformity among county forms and documentation.

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Nick Z.

3:22 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Now the question is when are people going to start complaining about providing ESOL courses to immigrants (legal or illegal)? "Why are we wasting all this money?" is what they will say.

I'd say it is cheaper to provide multiple forms, rather then receive illegible forms that require more time to understand and process.

My Name

11:52 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Councilman Jerry Walker need to stop wasting our $ and check out the emergency state of affairs in the county. jobs and homes are being lost and he is wasting money on useless B.S. that does nothing for the struggling residence that he is apparently sapose to be representing! Google translate your documents and move on to more important topics at hand

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McGibblets

3:15 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Are you that interested in saving miniscule dollars that you want google to have access to index every form the county has and uses?

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My Name

11:01 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

McGibblets....The wages and hours spent on such "minuscule BS" should be spent on saving the home's of your neighbor's of the community you live in. Loose your home and see who wants to help you. at least $200,000 to decide how its written on paper is well wasted time and money

Bob Johnson

5:02 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Hatemongers as usual. Drum up the conservative base with meaningless legislation that wastes time. If this bill passes consider boycotting GREENE TURTLE restaurants as Derek Fink (one of the main backers) is an owner. I bet he hires the same immigrants he wants to punish.

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Ronald Grossman

8:02 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Regardless of his hiring practices that appear to be perfectly legal I hope he does expect his employees to read and write english. It is his opinion - why are you attempting to supress his rights to freedom of expression by threatening his livelyhood? Talk about hatemongers - maybe you should try some medications for your personality disorder. It's a good thing we don't have to post pictures as i am sure you would have something negative to say about his color or looks as well.Try sticking to the facts.

Ryan Stavely

5:59 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

"“Guess what? You came to America, and the official language is English, and you will blend with everybody else. We’re not going to change our world to suit you. You will learn to suit to the country,” Grasso said."

Guess what, Grasso? You're wrong! The official language is not English.

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Amy Leahy

6:49 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

But it should be. Every other immigrant to this country ….the legal ones….have had to learn English.

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Earl Janssen

8:33 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

Sorry Amy, but you are completely wrong. I know many, many legal immigrants who never learned English. They live in our communities, but are pretty invisible to those who are outside their social/business circles. There have always been neighborhoods where immigrants have gathered together where English is not necessary.

Heather Macintosh

6:19 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Since when are official county documents in anything but English anyway? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't notice any rampant bilingualism around here.

By the way, what kind of county council member talks like that: "Guess what!"? Are we in middle school now?

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Christopher Wooleyhand

7:46 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

My faith in people has been restored by all of those speaking out against Jerry Walker's proposed bill. It's hard to understand how others can't see just how divisive this kind of legislation is. It's good to know that so many people don't share Walker and Grasso's views.

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Debbi McGlauflin

3:33 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I had the same feeling of faith being restored by the chorus of objections! This small-minded proposal simply isn't good enough for our county. We may be living in frightening times in a frightening world, but the only thing to fear is fear itself.

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Ronald Grossman

8:08 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

You may be right. When when English speaking Americans are losing jobs the backlash is against those that are different. One language would address enclaves where English is not accepted and would solve tons of current problems with documents and communications issues. Isn't it enough that we have to spend money on interpreters in court when illegals are allowed to get Driver's Licenses without speaking or writing English. If you can get a license you should need an interpreter in court. More wasted money to 'protect the rights' of those that want us to learn their language.

Earl Janssen

8:33 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

In the studies I read, the adoption of English by first generation immigrants today is the same as in our history. When immigrant peoples came to this country to work in the coal mines and in the steel mills, farms and other industries, they retained their native language and it wasn't until the second generation when English became the native language. My great-grandparents are a great example. When they moved to the US from Germany, they never learned English. Their children were the translators. "Guess what?" I don't speak German.

In the article in The Capital (2/7/12) about this, "Walker acknowledged that the bill probably won't lead to drastic changes." These are business people? I don't want my government officials doing things that really don't matter ... except to those who are struggling the most.

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Heather Macintosh

11:59 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Earl,
I like your point. We are all immigrants.

Phillip

10:24 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I believe this should be taken care of at the Federal level, not the State or County level. I have long been for "English" being our national language. I believe if you want to pass a drivers test you must be able to do it in English. I believe all court documents must be written in English, obviously if someone does not speak English in a court trial a translator should be provided.

It was clear by our founding fathers that English was the national language. After all, how many copies of the magna carta, declaration of independence, constitution, or bill of rights where translated into other languages by their authors?

I'm not sure this is the best thing for a county official to take on, but, I'm sure there are enough people like myself that believe English is our national language where he feels obligated to represent his community.

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Amy Leahy

10:09 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Phillip, just like closing the borders should be done at the Federal level? See where that's gotten Arizona.

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Phillip

2:19 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

I never said I supported closing boarders. If the Federal government wants to control boarders then they need to do it. If they fail, it is within a states right to uphold Federal law. Should we close our boarders? No, we need to make it economically feasible for people to come to this country. When it costs $2000+ in paperwork and lawyer fees to get into this country along with 2 - 20 years to get approved, why not just pay someone $1000 to help you cross? The US Government needs to have a flat rate fee, say $250, and be able to give a person an answer within 6 months. Until we can do something like that, forget it, people will cross illegally. But that's different than the English issue.

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Amy Leahy

2:59 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Phillip, Phillip....you missed my point.

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Ronald Grossman

8:13 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

The boarder issue is one of pure politics at it's worse. Mr. Obama specifically stated that is goal was to bring as many ptoential Democratic Voters into this country so as to make it virtually impossible for Republicans to win elections. Opening our boards has little to do with doing what's right as it is to doing what it takes to corrupt the system. Arizonia has a right to run Arizonia. Let the administration supply boarder crossing busses to take the illegals to Washington so that the present administration can deal with the problem. I believe that the bottom line is the need for more emphasis on legal immigration - not more illegal immigration. Why not set up english speaking schools on the board so that once you learn the language you can apply for citizenship and pay taxes?

Patti

12:38 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Why does this need to be done in the first place? Isn't it already the official language? What else would it be???

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Nick Z.

12:55 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I'm just wondering, where are all the complainers about government over-regulation and over-codification. Shouldn't they be concerned about the passing of these additional rules that businesses will have to follow. It would be unfounate to have your non-english speaking employees trying to fill out english paperwork.

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Thanks

10:25 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Below are the email addresses of the council. Drop them a note and put your position in the subject. Rarely does the body of the email get read, and if so, it is usually read by an aide.
james.benoit@aacounty.org
ctrumbauer@aacounty.org;
jerry.walker@aacounty.org
john.grasso@aacounty.org;
dfink@aacounty.org;
dladd@aacounty.org;

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chris carolan

1:17 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

All these comments make me think of how diverse this country is getting and catering to all people, while diversity sounds great it also divides and it would be nice if all of us could come together and have something in common like being proud of speaking a great language like english and being american!

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Heather Macintosh

1:55 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

Chris,

I honestly don't think this legislation is about helping people come together. Diversity actually can be great. It doesn't have to 'divide' - it can be an opportunity to stretch a bit and understand other people & cultures. A more helpful way for us all to come together would be to make sure English language classes are accessible, develop tolerance, embrace diversity, and trust that by the second generation, these immigrants will be as fluent in English as your second-generation ancestors were when they immigrated to America.

Christopher Wooleyhand

2:55 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

Let me compliment everyone on their civility in discussing this polarizing topic. The website below is a great source for the pro and con arguments related to English as an official language. Ultimately, two points stand out to reaffirm the argument that there is no need to address this at the county government level. One, there are no federal laws requiring English as an official language and two, state and local governments risk violating Constitutional rights when they impose language legislation. Let's ask our county council to work for more important goals.

http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Debate:_English_as_US_official_language

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Phillip

3:03 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012

I'm fine with other people not learning English, but I'm not ok with specific state institutions, such as the MVA, allowing people to obtain motor vehicle licenses and yet not being able to speak more than just a few words in English. If this bill does not address those types of problems in our society then what is the point.

I also believe that English is the one thing that every American has in common. White, Black, Brown, Green, Red, Yellow, Purple, it doesn't matter what color you are, it doesn't matter what religion you follow, in the United States English helps keep us a single country. Look at the division that Canada has had over French speaking Quebec. We do not need that type of division here in the United States.

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John Thomas

7:07 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012

The government only wants rich people immigrating to our country. Which makes complete sense because I don't want my tax dollars going to support non-US citizens on welfare and food stamps. If you want the government to make it a $250 flat rate fee then you can send some of your tax dollars to subsidize the Immigration Branch of Homeland Security. I say keep the fees high. Also it takes a long time because they have to do background criminal checks on incoming immigrants. Why do you want immigrants taking jobs away from American citizens??

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James Johnson

2:45 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012

This bill is likely unconstitutional because 1) it is being supported for the purpose of discriminating on the basis of national origin (because the proponents have admitted that the purpose is to "send a message") 2) It is not narrowly tailored to a compelling state interest (because even if having everyone speak only English is a compelling state interest this is much better achieved by supporting English classes and ESOL).

Now, the county is going to waste resources to pass an ineffective bill that they have to spend more money on defending in court. The only message that this sends is that they are a bunch of idiots that do not have the intelligence to make good public policy.

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